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, now entering its fifth week. It feels like shutdowns are more common these days. Is our perception reality? And if so, is this the new normal when it comes to the U.S. government? What are the consequences of a long shutdown, both in terms of economic and human toll? And what would it take to end this one? Or has Washington lost its will to negotiate?

Guest host Tiffany Hanssen spoke with two experts in presidential history and put this shutdown in perspective. 

, professor and founding director of the Center for Presidential History at Southern Methodist University 

, a professor of public policy at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University 

To listen to the full conversation you can use the audio player above.

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As the partial government shutdown stretches into its fifth week, we take an in-depth look. Are shutdowns really happening more often? If so, why? What are the consequences of a long shutdown? And what would it take to end this one?

It's the longest government shutdown in history, now entering its 5th week. It feels like shutdowns are more common these days. Is our perception reality? And if so, is this the new normal when it comes to the U.S. government? What are the consequences of a long shutdown, both in terms of economic and human toll? And what would it take to end this one? Or has Washington lost its will to negotiate?

Are government shutdowns the new normal?

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