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A musician's workplace is often a bar or nightclub.

Usually there's alcohol. Sometimes drugs.

But what happens when a musician decides to become sober? How do they navigate a world that doesn’t seem to encourage this new change?

 (who performs under the name Lydia Liza) and

 on navigating the music scene as sober musicians. They joined guest host Brandt Williams to talk about their journey, breaking points and how they continue to stay sober.

They were also joined by Sarah Souder Johnson, co-founder of

 — an arts, mental health and recovery support organization. Souder Johnson is also a St. Paul-based psychotherapist at

, MPR’s initiative to foster new conversations about mental health.

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A musician's workplace is often a bar or nightclub. Usually there's alcohol. Sometimes drugs. So, what happens when a musician decides to become sober? Lydia Liza and Kevin Bowe talk about their journey, breaking points and how they continue to stay sober.

A musician's workplace is often a bar or nightclub. Usually there's alcohol. Sometimes drugs. So, what happens when a musician decides to become sober? Lydia Liza and Kevin Bowe talked about their journey, breaking points and how they continue to stay sober with guest host Brandt Williams.

Two local musicians share how they navigate sobriety

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