'Living While Dying' episode 21: Wrestling with angels Health Cathy Wurzer · Oct 30, 2015 Listen 21. Wrestling with angels 14min 37sec Bruce Kramer talks about his thoughts on mortality and spirituality. He also has an encounter with the Dalai Lama, which makes him think about what it means to be blessed. Stay Informed The news on your schedule from MPR News Update Email Address* Zip Code MPR News Update AM MPR News Update PM See our Privacy Policy. Must be age 13.