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North Star Journey Live

Angela Davis and Kelly Gordon

June 18, 2024 11:25 AM

North Star Journey Live: What Happened in Alabama?

People are talking — Minnesota Public Radio News host Angela Davis, left, and Lee Hawkins talk on the stage during the North Star Journey Live series at the 3M Auditorium at the Minnesota History Center in St. Paul, Minn., on Wednesday, May 22, 2024. Hawkins is the host of What Happened in Alabama?, which is a limited series podcast exploring the effects of slavery and Jim Crow segregation has had on his family, dating back to the 1600s.
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In many ways, Lee Hawkins’ childhood in Maplewood was typical for families in the 1980s. He rode bikes, spent hours exploring the landscape, played rudimentary video football games. He and his sisters were raised by two loving parents and spent hours at Mt. Olivet Baptist Church each week.

But in other ways, Hawkins’ experience was unique. His family was Black in a mostly white suburb, part of the “integration generation.” He found community both with his peers at North St. Paul High School and at the barbershop he frequented in the Rondo area of St. Paul. And his parents, especially his dad, could be volatile, wrestling with the effects of intergenerational trauma that had roots in Alabama, where Hawkins’ father grew up.

Reconciling those two truths led Hawkins to dive into his family’s history. The result is his new podcast, What Happened in Alabama? It’s an honest look at what 400 years of unaddressed trauma can do in individuals, in families, in communities. It’s also a nuanced narrative of Hawkins’ own life. How could the father he idolized also be violent? How could he break the cycle of trauma so that future generations would know their history and be able to heal from it?

Hawkins lives in New York now, but he came home to Minnesota in May to talk with MPR News host Angela Davis about his journey for a special North Star Journey Live. On stage at the Minnesota History Center the night of May 22, before a crowd of several hundred people, they discussed the significance of exploring family history and intergenerational trauma, highlighting the lasting impact of Jim Crow on America and the power of truth-telling as we seek to understand our past and break cycles of trauma.

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Attendies poses for a photo — Friends and colleagues pose for a picture with Lee Hawkins (right) at the conclusion of the North Star Journey Live series.
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People are talking — Minnesota Public Radio News host Angela Davis, left, and Lee Hawkins talk on the stage during the North Star Journey Live series at the 3M Auditorium at the Minnesota History Center in St. Paul.
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Lee Hawkins speaks — Lee Hawkins speaks during the North Star Journey Live series at the 3M Auditorium at the Minnesota History Center in St. Paul.
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You can listen to What Happened in Alabama? wherever you get your podcasts. Hawkins is also the author of the forthcoming book, “Nobody's Slave: How Uncovering My Family's History Set Me Free,” which is available for preorder now.

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