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Like any group, the experiences of American Muslims are varied.

Rabia Chaudry is an immigration and civil rights lawyer, founder of Safe Nation Collaborative, and daughter of Pakistani immigrants. She arrived in the U.S. at 6 months old and was raised to be patriotic both for the country where she lives and the country she came from.

"I kind of tend to say that I feel like Pakistan is the mother that birthed me but America was the father that raised me," Chaudry said. But that's not everyone's story, she added.

Haris Tarin is the son of refugees from Afghanistan. He is senior policy adviser in the Department of Homeland Security and former head of the Muslim Public Affairs Council in Washington. As a ranking education professional, Tarin's father had a choice of what country to move his family to. He chose America because he believed it was the only place his children would be able to find acceptance.

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While Chaudry and Tarin have what some might consider typical American stories, they are still viewed as "other," Tarin said.

"What people don't realize is that we haven't gotten to where we are today in a vacuum, it hasn't happened overnight," Chaudry said. The truth is anti-Muslim rhetoric has always been present, it just hasn't been in the public eye until recently, she said.

It wasn't until President Trump first attempted to implement a 

 from Muslim-majority countries that Chaudry said she really saw people realize how bad things were.

Muslim-American children growing up in the shadow of 9/11 often feel they can't be American because it's a label that rejects them, Chaudry said, they feel left out of their own community.

That's why it's so important that American Muslims have a voice in politics and public conversations today.

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"So the idea is, we need to also get out of our comfort, little comfy zones, and engage folks. Because when we do that I think that's a part of being honest to ourselves and communities," Tarin said.

To listen to their conversation, click the audio player above.

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Insights into the varied experiences of Muslims in America, from a son of Afghani refugees who works for the Department of Homeland Security, and the daughter of Pakistani immigrants who founded an organization called Safe Nation Collaborative.

Some insights into the varied experiences of Muslims in America, from a son of Afghani refugees who works for the Department of Homeland Security, and the daughter of Pakistani immigrants who founded an organization called Safe Nation Collaborative.

Aspen Ideas Festival: Being Muslim and American in 2017

Rabia Chaudry and Haris Tarin at the 2017 Aspen Ideas Festival.

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